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But I think it's it's definitely something a lot of writers can identify with the overthinking aspect, you know? So, yeah, it's it's been difficult to say the least. It's it's very hard, but it's, it's something that I've tried to practice I've tried to be mindful of throughout my journey as a writer and just as a human being in general. But for Yeah, for for somebody like me, like I'm, I'm, I'm a huge over thinker, and I analyze everything and so for, for somebody to tell me Well, just don't overthink don't, you know, don't think too critically about something. And I think a lot of, you know, a lot of horror writers were like, We're the worst case scenario type people, we immediately think, what's the worst thing that could happen to somebody? What's the worst thing that could go go wrong in this situation? Whether it's, you know, looking at world events, like what's currently going on? Or you know, crafting a story, what's the worst thing that could happen to these characters? Like, what can I put them through that's going to transform them? And you know, possibly, obviously, if it's a horror story going to it's going to harm them and or possibly kill them. Yeah, I think particularly don't overthink is an incredibly tough lesson for someone who's an over thinker because you then have the tendency to start overthinking the idea of not overthinking it can be kind of bizarre paradox.Įxactly. You know? So I would say that was like a big life lesson growing up. And don't let it really, you know, just don't take yourself too seriously. But also, don't let it don't let it consume you. But yeah, I would say I would say that was a really seminal life lesson for me early on was just, you know, be dedicated to something. Don't overthink, which I'm a huge over thinker, sometimes I tend to spiral.

But also like, don't take yourself too seriously, if that makes sense. kind of cliche, but, you know, just be a student of your craft, really be militant about your writing and or whatever, you know, whatever it is in your life that brings you purpose and joy. And as we do with a lot of these episodes, I wanted to start at the beginning and I want to know about what somebody's early life lessons were that you learned growing up?Įarly life lessons, um, I would say maybe one that I learned very early on was, you know, work very hard. Well, we are so excited to have you here. I've listened to a ton of episodes and I'm just so thrilled to be chatting with you and Bob.

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